Had owned and used these tires for just over two years. I live in Utah and have bought Michelin tires for 30 years. I have been completely disappointed with these tires in the snow, ice, and pooled water. There is no traction at all. During the summer, on dry roads, there is almost to much traction as the car pulls left or right due to the road tilt, or if there is a slight grove in the road, there is always a hard bite and pull. During weather, with any standing rain, slush or snow on the ground, the car has very limited traction and spins and slides with no control. It is crazy and scary. Hills are impossible to climb and I have been stuck more times than desired waiting for a snow plow so I can get up the hill to my house. Very disappointed and surprised and this has not been the norm with Michelin all season tires. I will never buy the tire model again. if you have any compact snow or ice, do not get these tires.