Yea... Not good tires. At first i bought them because i had expired and bald tires on my car from previous owner. Picked these up because of a budget. About a year later, i was driving over a pass with moist road and going about 40-45. The front driver slammed her brakes and i slammed mine right after. Due to traffic, i couldn't swerve left or right and ended up rear ending the car in front of me due to NO traction and i had ABS. The front driver was about 40-50 feet away, If i had bought some better tires, i would still have my car today. DO NOT go cheap and buy these.