Got 100,000 miles out of the set with a few rotations, so that's the good news. Other than that I could not tell you to avoid these tires enough. The tread has no escape channel for water, so even when they were brand new they will hydroplane no matter how slow you are going, no matter how little rain there is. Downright dangerous. Just badly designed. Also, ride is stiff even at 30 psi.