These were the original tires on my car. They should make it to 40K miles. I was pleasantly surprised my first winter, as these actually did quite well in the snow. First time I had a tire of this wide an aspect ratio in the snow ( other than borrowed ones, which gave me the bad impression ... ) so I wasn't expecting much. I don't consider >myself< an aggressive driver, but OTHER people tell me I do hard cornering. I just don't see any point in stopping for corners. They are now getting quite thin, and gave me a little trouble in the last snow, but given the limited tread depth, I can't consider that unreasonable !